Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:12:29 -1000
Here is the final copy of Dr.
Josiane's report of our visit to Cambodia.
With love,
From Daniel (Susott).
Report on my trip to Cambodia
20 years after, July 4 to 21, 2000
1. Introduction
One year ago Prom and I decided
to make a trip to Cambodia with the purpose
of returning to a country that
we have loved and left several years ago.
The participants to the trip
were:
a.. Prom Gould:
Prom is now a young man aged 22 and working in the
Garden Centre of a Hardware
store in Hawaii. He met Dr. Josiane Andre in 1981 at age 3
in the Paediatric National Hospital then called World Vision
Hospital. He was an abandoned
orphan sick with haemophilia. He spent the
next 9 years of his life
between the Nutrition Centre, an orphanage
receiving babies and toddlers
and the Hospital. Later in 1990, he was
noticed by Dr. Daniel Susott
who took care of him in his own house in Phnom
Penh before he could arrange an
adoption. The Gould family from Hawaii
adopted him and Prom was treated
with the best possible care not only for
his physical condition, but
also as a son. He received an excellent
education, even though, at age
13, he didn t speak English and had never
learned to read and write in
his own language. He wished to return to
Cambodia after 10 years to
reconnect with his past.
b.. Dr. Daniel Susott:
Daniel trained in Hawaii as a Medical Doctor.
In 1979, he got a job in the
border camps of Thailand as a Medical
Co-ordinator among the
Cambodian and Vietnamese refugees. This experience
inspired him to lean more
toward public health and consequently he did his
postgraduate training in this
field in Hawaii. In 1990, he visited Cambodia
and decided to initiate several
programmes around Cambodia (some recently
liberated from the Khmer
rouge), emphasising literacy in Khmer language for
women. He also sponsored a
programme of adoption for the several abandoned
babies and toddlers whose
mortality rate was over 50%. During this time he
discovered Prom, a big skinny
boy living among the toddlers. After some
research Daniel found out that
Prom was affected by haemophilia and that
his survival depended on him
being adopted in a country where he could
receive an appropriate
treatment for his condition. He took him in his own
house until 1991 when he could
find a dedicated family who would take the
risk to care for Prom. Later on
Daniel opened a training centre for girls
in PP: Sewing, English,
Computer are some of the skills taught in this
Centre. The adoption scheme has
been taken over by a colleague. Daniel had
not visited Cambodia
extensively for the last 3 years and wanted to renew
his contacts.
c.. Ashley Auld-Susott:
Ashley is Daniel s niece and had just graduated
from high school. She made the
trip from California to join us in Bangkok,
invited by her uncle.
d.. Josiane Volkmar-Andre:
Josiane got involved in humanitarian work by
the end of 1979 during the
Cambodian Crisis. She worked initially in a
border camp in Thailand where
she got acquainted with Daniel. In 1980, she
worked with World Vision in
their Paediatric Hospital in Phnom Penh. Some
months later, an old man
brought a bruised boy to the clinic and
disappeared leaving Prom in the
hands of the "doctor", but Josiane was
never permitted to adopt him.
During the next 10 years Prom and Josiane
never completely lost touch
through a variety of friends. In 1991 Daniel
who had found Prom managed to
call Josiane in Switzerland to ask her if she
was still willing to adopt him.
At the time, she and her husband Erik were
very busy launching MEDAIR and
didn t feel they were in a capacity to adopt
Prom. However, since then a
real conversation began between them, first
through letters and pictures
with his new family, then through visits to
Hawaii and Switzerland in 1994,
1996, 1998. Josiane had a great desire to
return to Cambodia to see the
people and the places where Prom and she had
first met, to renew past
contacts and to watch the changes that had
occurred in the last 20 years..
The above participants met in
Bangkok, Thailand on July 5th and spent a few
days there before flying
together on Royal Air Cambodge to Phnom Penh where
they arrived on July 9th.
The first great surprise was to
be met by Chan Thy and his family. Chan Thy
was a teenager in the refugee
camps in Thailand. Both Daniel and Josiane
knew him then. Later Daniel
took care of reuniting him with his family and
provided him with a good
education in the US. Chan Thy now works for Royal
Air Cambodge and has a lovely
wife and two sons.
It was great to have an
apartment ready for us near the Central market in PP.
So we got settled there and
began to visit several places:
a.. Orphanage for older kids,
now abandoned and squatted by some of the orphans who are adults.
b.. Nutrition Centre, orphanage
for babies, toddlers and mentally handicapped
c.. Paediatric National Hospital
(World Vision): Dr. Chhour Y Meng
d.. Dr. Ho Bun Hon, previous
Director of the Paediatric Hospital and his wife, previous head nurse
e.. Social Fund of the Kingdom
of Cambodia: Mot Song Heng and several
other colleagues back from the
US to help particularly with legal matters, alongside with law students from
the US
f.. Meeting with Dr. Daisy Tin
Tin Saw, a Burmese doctor who worked at the WV Hospital
g.. Kampong Saom, Cambodia s
main harbour and beach called also
Sihanoukville
h.. On the way, stop in the pine
mountains near the main road.
i.. Women and Orphans Vocational
Program Orphanage near the sea, a
place where we stayed
j..
Cambodia World Family training centre and graduation ceremony in
Tak Mau. Lunch with the staff
k.. Birthday party in a
Cambodian home of upper class Cambodians.
l.. Central market
m.. Interview with a local
journalist on the topic of adoption
n.. Dinner party with the staff
of the WFF training centre
o.. Worship service in English
at the World Vision (WVI) main office
with 300 participants : Rev.
Wes Lindquist
p.. Lunch with some missionaries in PP and surrounded area.
q.. Siem Reap: Hotel La Noria
r.. Angkor
temples and waterfall of the thousand lingua river
s.. Meal with a local medical
team: Dr John
t.. Project Hagar of Youth With
A Mission (YWAM): single mother-child
care and small business
projects: Rosalie Thompson (social worker) and Va
Tong (marketing manager).
u.. WVI offices in PP: Kith
Veasna (Communications Co-ordinator)
v.. Cambodian National Council
for Children: Chan Haran Vaddey,
previous director of the
Nutrition Centre
w.. Dinner at Hotel Royal
(previously Samaki where I used to live in
1980-81)
2. First impressions
Flying over the country at the
beginning of the rainy seasons, I was
impressed to see the whole
country covered with water. The Tonle Sap and
the various branches of the
Mekong river reinforced this feeling. Later in
the trip, as we flew again over
the country after sunset, Prom expressed it
this way: "this country is
not even born, it is still in the water and has
no light." In fact, apart
from Phnom Penh, not light is visible in the
country site and even PP is
dimly lit.
Once on the ground, I was
stunned by the activity of the City compared to
1981. No more red flags and
communist propaganda were hanging on each
building. A great number of
motorcycles and some cars would flow along the
wide avenues, then deserted. In
the markets, many goods were available and
customers would flock to buy
them. Children and some adults would beg but
much less than I thought and a
lot less than in 1981, even though the
population in the town is five
times bigger (about two Millions). The
Mekong riverside has been
rebuilt and, on holidays, families enjoy a walk
on the peer. Parks,
restaurants, attractions are equally visited by many.
The bridge has been rebuilt and
high class families as well as peasants,
fishermen and a Chinese
community live on the Island across the bridge.
Several lovely colonial style
buildings have been restored as well as the
palace and I was glad to notice
very few ugly concrete constructions. The
city has expanded way beyond
what it was. Smaller streets are not paved and
often littered with garbage,
though larger avenues are swept and cleaned.
Among public buildings, I was
happy to see a few small factories, Schools
and Hospitals. The airport is
being extended. All in all, if we consider
that reconstruction started
only in 1990 after the departure of the
Vietnamese, there is much
progress, but still a long way to go.
Considering the population, the
difference is striking. Whereas in 1981,
most people were single women,
widows and small children with very few men,
there is now a vast majority of
youth between 5 and 25 and very few adults
between 25 and 50. Most of the
older generation has been partly eliminated,
displaced or resettled in other
countries. There is a great need for people
of this age group to return in
order to rebuild the structure of the
country: pastors, lawyers,
teachers, doctors, managers, businessmen, anyone
with a skill.
Young people are eager to
learn, however they have not enough skilled
teachers in any domain. Another
characteristic of the youth is that they
ignore the massacre of 1975 to
1979 or at least they don't want to face it.
Turning the page after such an
ordeal is quite dangerous. The presence of
dedicated people willing to
trigger an awareness of the recent history
could be useful to bring
healing to the Cambodians.
3. More focused
a.. Orphanages: Our first visit
in PP was for an orphanage previously
housing older children in the
eighties. This orphanage was a real wreck.
Adult orphans who had lived
there in their early years have squatted the
buildings and are living out of
nothing: no instruction, no work, no job,
no interest, though some of
them would be strong to do some hard work.
Apparently they are receiving a
meagre income from the Government, just to
survive. It was an appalling
sight.
b.. Nutrition Centre: though we
could see an improvement in the
buildings, outside games and
toys for the children, this orphanage for
small children has the same
spirit as before, a spirit of resignation and
passivity. Many staff rejoiced
to see Prom in such good health. They had
good memories of him and found
him very lucky. This concept of "good luck"
and "bad luck"
prevents most people to go out of their way to improve
things, to play with the kids
or to care for them, they rather keep an
attitude of fatalism. Many
babies and even toddlers were already ear-marked
for adoption. Those were the
lucky ones. The others with malformation,
mental handicap or AIDS were
the ones with a bad "carma". Some were kept in
cages. I noticed the same
spirit of fatalism in the orphanage near the sea.
Most orphans were skinny and
rather malnourished. We saw a number of
foreign parents caring for
their future adopted child, many came from
France. Papers would take 3
months to be ready before the child could be
released. The adoption process
costs around 10'000 $. This seems to be a
huge sum, however Cambodia is
still the cheapest place for adoption.
American future parents have
much less red tape and can take their new
child in a few days.
c..
National Paediatric Hospital (WVI). This visit was particular
memorable for me as I was able
to meet a number of staff with whom I had
worked with in the past and who
remembered me, in particular Dr. Meng, then
a young intern, now the
Hospital Director. He was able to train in
Australia and shortly in the
US. He remembered Prom and another young man
with a nephrotic syndrome whom
we knew then and who has now healed. Mak who
was the Hospital supervisor is
still around as well as several nurses, two
of whom have trained to become
Medical assistants. I also met two ladies in
the pharmacy and a few other
staff who remembered me. The Hospital has
improved. One of the aisle has
been redone completely with an operating
block. It was just inaugurated
a few weeks before. The park is well kept.
However WVI wants now to leave
the Hospital management to the Cambodian
Government and this will weaken
the actual running, A self-supported system
has been introduced, but does
not cover all the expenses. This also means
that only the rich people will
be able to be treated there. The Swiss
Paediatric Hospital elsewhere
in town, run by Dr. Beat is free of charge
and supposedly only takes on
the very sick. Will these two structures
complete each other or compete?
d.. Social Fund of the Kingdom of
Cambodia: Two Cambodian brothers have
returned from the US and are
now working in a private Centre in order to
translate and promote the laws
of Cambodia. One of the brothers is a
printer and has produced some
booklets easy to read in order to diffuse
these laws among students,
researchers, teachers and lawyers. We met a
number of Cambodians who have
returned to Cambodia from a variety of
countries in order to help
their country. This was an encouraging sign,
though it is not quite clear
how they co-ordinate their activities with the
present Government.
e.. Sihanoukville (KS): The
harbour and beach resort begin to develop.
A number of Hotels and
Restaurants have been built and others are being
built. The place is beautiful,
but it seems little is done or thought about
pollution, sewage and garbage.
The sea is wonderful, the water hardly salty
because of the many rivers and
quite warm (at least 25 degrees Celsius).
f.. Road to Sihanoukville: On the way from PP to the beach, many small
factories have sprung,
producing cotton T-shirts, beer and other products.
This is rejoicing but,
according to the press, salaries are too low for the
workers to make a living. The
road is excellent (built by the US). On the
right hand side about half way
between PP and KS, a pine forest of great
beauty covers big hills from
which waterfalls run into the main streams.
g.. Cambodia World Family (Dr. Susott) : A training centre for girls
operates in Tak Mau in the
suburb of PP. We came for the graduation
ceremony of the first class and
inauguration of the second "SYWAG: Saving
Young Women and Girls".
which was filmed by the Cambodian TV. It started
with a Buddhist blessing, then
the Director, the Social Co-ordinator and
the local Mayor spoke before
the distribution of the diplomas. The girls
graduated in sewing and in
English and Computer skills along with some
boys. Most of the students come
from large middle-class families. We shared
a meal with the staff.
h.. Upper class homes: I saw
closely two of them: one in a new
condominium with a swimming
pool has an exquisite architecture and is
overlooking the crossing of the
four rivers. Another, across the bridge on
the island is built on the
river side among trees and other such homes
belonging to wealthy families.
On the same shore, we saw many restaurants
with a huge number of tables,
busy in the evenings and on holidays. It is
hard to know how some people
have regained a high level of wealth. I was
surprised to see some high
class Cambodians who never left the country
during Pol Pot and seem to have
survived this period somehow outside the
Capital city without too much
hassle. In 1981, I was not aware of anybody
living in such places. I also
met a "golden youth" clothed in the latest
fashion, riding motorcycles,
mixing boys and girls, able to afford
hamburgers, pizzas, CDs and to
study abroad.
i.. International church: The English speaking church takes place in
the WVI auditorium in Central
PP. It is attended by people of many
nationalities, mostly
humanitarian workers and missionaries, but also by
many Cambodians. It is a lively
church with a long worship time and
excellent teaching. Compared
to1981 when we squeezed in one room of the
Samaki Hotel, about 15
expatriate Christians, the church attendance is now
around 300.
j.. Cambodian church: According to the latest estimation, there are
80'000 members in the
Evangelical churches and certainly as many or more in
the Catholic churches. Each
village has a church and the interest for
Christianity is growing. Other
movements such as the Mormons and the JW are
there as well. This is of
course an enormous growth since my time in 1981
when the church was
underground. In those days I attended a meeting under
the banana trees with around
300 Christians from all denominations in Tak
Mau. At the time the only
remaining trained pastor had to leave to the
camps, fleeing for his life.
There are now four churches in Tak Mau only.
Teaching and training new
pastors is an enormous challenge for the
missionaries.
k.. Hagar Ministry with YWAM: Both WVI and YWAM have extensive
development ministries in
Cambodia. Daniel and I were able to visit one of
these in PP: the Hagar Project.
The Project is named after Hagar, who was
one of Abraham s wife thrown
out of the household with her son into the
desert. Its purpose is to
rehabilitate women with children or a child who
are either widows, abandoned
women or single mothers. YWAM started on a
piece of land close to the
stadium, given to them by the Government. Daniel
recognised this piece of land
that the Government had offered him many
years ago and for which he paid
the fence. Anyway the place now hosts about
100 children and 50 mothers.
During the day, the mothers work and the
children are cared for by local
staff and some mothers. The children are divided in
small groups according to age
and receive care and training all
day long. The mothers care for
them in the middle of the day and at night.
Food is provided by a central
kitchen. In the compound there are also two
small factories: one is
producing soja milk using skilled staff and the
other produces food for larger
factories. These products are sold by the
mothers on the street. The
ministry is not yet totally self-sufficient but
is working towards this goal.
After six months the women are sent back
home, since most of them have
come to PP from the countryside to beg.
Around 75 % of them will become
independant. For the remaining, YWAM has
started a village on a small
island 10 miles from PP. This village is
organised like a community and
is self reliant. The Government is so
pleased with this project that
he has already given a few pieces of land in
different areas for this
project to be launched. I was very impressed by
the quality of this project.
l.. Some numbers and facts
a.. the population is 11,7 million (90 % Khmer)
b.. 1/3 of the population is literate, 1/3 has basic writing
knowledge and 1/3 is illiterate
c.. the Government of Cambodia spends less than 1 $ per person
and per year for Health
d.. the health care system is one of the worst in the world
e.. 90 % of the people are involved in agriculture
f.. 52 % of the population is underweight, 1/2 of the children
are malnourished
g.. insecurity due to landmines and militaries is still
prevalent in the countryside
h.. lack of a proper legal system encourages corruption, sex
market and abuse
a.. Glimpses
For the four of us who have
travelled together, there will be many good
memories, memories of hope
rather than gloom. I will just mention a few
that stay with me now, 2 months
after return:
a.. A delicious and friendly meal in the house of Chan Ty with his
lovely wife Ruth and their two
sons. This family is a refreshing site
because they came back to their
country after having tasted the US easy way
of life. Ruth is an excellent
cook and the two young boys are the hope for
Cambodia.
b.. A happy barbecue on the
roof of the house in Phnom Penh: this was
an opportunity to meet some of
Daniel s friends and co-workers, many of
whom were known by Prom as he
spent a year with them in 1991.
c.. Free meetings with ex co-
workers at the Hospital, meetings where
we could share openly our
struggles and our needs, as well as our
achievements and our future.
d.. A birthday party where I
saw that Daniel and Ashley dance together
with great joy and skill,
Daniel can improvise as a singer and I renew my
love for Cambodian dance.
e.. Prom s kindness is well
recognised among his previous friends,
carers in the orphanage and in
the Hospital.
f.. A busy market with a variety of goods and a few little beggars in
great distress
g.. A beautiful sarong and a
gold belt chosen by Prom for the Cambodian
girl he fell in love with
h.. Great joy and refreshing
preaching at the International church now
able to meet in freedom in PP.
Warm fellowship with one another.
i.. Groups of little children happy to sing or read at the
Hagar Centre
in PP.
j.. Magnificent views in the
pine forest on the way to the sea and at
the beach.
k.. The sweetest and warmest water ever felt as I took a swim in KS.
l.. A little orphan eating sweat bean balls with great appetite.
m.. Some true lawyers wanting
to improve justice in the land
n.. A prayer with a Burmese Doctor on top of a roof.
o.. A tree eating a wall in Angkor temples. A ballet of dancing insects
over a pond reflecting a small
temple.
p.. A flight of many coloured
butterflies in the sunshine out of the
rainy forest.
q.. A group of jumping children
from a tree into a pond.
r.. A thousand years old
fountain besides the bed of a river in the
middle of the jungle.
s.. A tropical rain drenching my bones as we look at classical
Cambodian dances
t.. River falls in the jungle, rain and sunshine, rice paddies
reflecting the sky
u.. A grand dinner with Daniel
at the Hotel Royal in PP (former Samaki)
v.. A visit to my previous room in the Hotel
w.. A hand presented as a gift
to Daniel at the end of our journey
What about pictures? call Daniel:
he has a whole CD-ROM with pictures and a
Video.